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Principle Two: Where there’s ruin, there’s hope

with Steve Chalke's guest and expert witness

Hilary Cottam OBE

Where there’s ruin, there’s hope: There is no “system”, just a collection of different systems which are not joined up, are top-down and bureaucratic and fixated on process. Statutory services are ill-fitting and disempower the staff working within them. We need a better, more joined-up, integrated and holistic approach. In this episode Steve’s guest and expert witness is Hilary Cottam, social entrepreneur.

It’s often claimed that ‘the system is broken’ – that the current model of welfare, care and protection is failing countless thousands of the most vulnerable children and their families across the UK that it was designed to serve.

The situation is far worse than that. It is not that the system is broken and isn’t working; it is that there is no system. What we actually have is a collection of different systems – social care, education, family support, health, mental health, housing, justice – that are not joined up. Instead, they all operate independently. They function within different frameworks, they are top down and bureaucratic, they are overly fixated on process, they collect different data. They’re ‘output’ obsessed (How many clients have we been involved with/calls have we answered? etc.) rather than ‘outcome’ focused (What difference did we make?) and there’s no effective interface between them, so that any unifying sense of shared and focused vision and purpose is non-existent. The irony in all this is that, in a sense, many of these systems – in their own terms – aren't broken at all. The terrible truth is that although they are dysfunctional, they are all doing exactly what they have been designed to do!

It’s not just that the individual systems lack cohesion, many are not even joined up within themselves. Instead, they’re made up of various smaller, disjointed systems, each run by its own set of managers. Over the last twenty years, part of my job has been to engage with both central and local government departments – a task in which I never cease to be amazed by the level of muddle and confusion, poor communication, institutional deafness to the complexity of need, and the huge levels of unnecessary expenditure. And none of this is helped by the constantly shifting policies and changing targets that go with them, overlaid by the endless churn of staff changing roles and the acute lack of organisational memory that accompanies all this.

It is impossible to solve our current problems with the same thinking that created them. More money might be needed, but the crisis we face is not primarily about underinvestment. Better management may be needed, but the issues we must confront are not primarily about poor management. Instead, we need a root-and-branch revolution. Everything has to change.

Ironically, the mix of ill-fitting statutory systems we have at the moment disempowers the staff working within them as much as it does the individuals and families it seeks to serve – creating a toxicity which is traumatising for all who are touched by it.

Those of us with eyes to see – from those in national or local government, those in national charities or statutory services, through to the pavement-level voluntary sector and individual community members – find ourselves sitting on a social, emotional, mental-health, and economic time-bomb. If we are going to improve children’s life chances or deliver assistance, it’s time to reimagine. We need a mind-set change which will cascade into a better, more joined-up, integrated, holistic and robust approach to building safe communities for children and their families, where all feel safe, have ownership and can thrive.

Where there is ruin, there is also hope!

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Where there’s ruin, there’s hope: There is no “system”, just a collection of different systems which are not joined up, are top-down and bureaucratic and fixated on process. Statutory services are ill-fitting and disempower the staff working within them. We need a better, more joined-up, integrated and holistic approach. In this episode Steve’s guest and expert witness is Hilary Cottam, social entrepreneur. In part one Steve sets out his second principle, in part two Dr Hilary responds.

“Hillary is a social entrepreneur and author of a brilliant book called Radical Help. We talk together about Principle 2: Where there's ruin,there's hope. I loved our conversation because Hilary is someone who stimulates my thinking around what it means to build authentic community empowering individuals rather than robbing them of the opportunity to be involved.” – Steve Chalke

Hilary Cottam OBE

Dr. Hilary Cottam is a social entrepreneur, thinker, and policy advisor. Her work includes the creation of new approaches and services for ageing, family life and care. Her acclaimed 2018 book Radical Help was hailed as ‘mind-shifting’ by David Brooks in the New York Times. It has been translated internationally and is widely credited with shifting national narratives and practice around welfare systems. Her current research and practice centres on the future of work and on new care economies. Hilary holds an Honorary Professorship at the Institute of Innovation and Public Purpose at UCL; she was named UK Designer of the Year in 2005 for pioneering the field of social design; and has been named a Young Global Leader by the World Economic Forum.

About this podcast series

This podcast series, and the accompanying book by Steve Chalke sets out ten tried and tested practical principles for ‘how’ to develop joined up, cost effective, community empowering work, gleaned from the hard-won experience that sit at the heart of the mission of Oasis over the last four decades. Steve talks to 13 expert witnesses who help him bring his book to life with their own thoughts and lived experiences. We believe it’s time for a radical reset. It's time for A Manifesto for Hope!

Steve’s book is available wherever you buy your books but we recommend you buy it from Bookshop.org an online bookshop with a mission to financially support local, independent bookshops.This book is also available on Audible.

The Manifesto of Hope podcast is brought to you by Oasis. Our producer is Peter Kerwood and the sound and mix engineer is Matteo Magariello.

The Manifesto for Hope

If we are going to build and fund an integrated and holistic system of care for children, young people and their families; one which is aligned and attuned to the real needs of those it seeks to serve, we have to reimagine society together.

We therefore call on central government to establish a new social covenant that:

  1. Replaces the ‘political-cycle-is-all-that-matters’ short-term-policy-making approach and the financial wastage that accompanies it, with a cross-party written commitment to an agreed set of core principles, to be honoured over a twenty-year period, in order to reimagine and rebuild our expensive, but suboptimal systems.
  2. Creates a new generation of visionary ‘cross-system’ government leaders and officers, responsible for delivering innovative, joined-up systems with a specific focus across education, social care, healthcare and mental health, housing, policing and justice, in order to connect the policies and practices that are supposed to protect and nurture every child and young person.
  3. Builds a deepened level of trust between government, local authorities, funders, private and voluntary agencies, and local neighbourhoods by establishing a model of collaboration and mutual accountability around our vital community-building services, designed to empower ordinary people and whole communities.
  4. Acknowledges the central role of the voluntary sector – local charities, grassroots movements and faith groups – in a more imaginative, more collaborative, less bureaucratic, more transparent and mutually accountable approach to community development.
  5. Designs services ‘with’ local people rather than ‘for’ them, by listening hard to the people they are seeking to serve, thus enabling individuals and whole communities to become change makers and take responsibility for their own lives and neighbourhoods.
  6. Realigns funding priorities to create a new focus on longer-term partnerships, with more core funding, and avoids the negative competition for resources by local organisations, which by its very nature has eroded trust, created confusion, wasted time and resources, and fails to deliver the desired outcomes.
  7. Reimagines the anchor role education plays in order to end the culture of exclusion from our schools, and develops a greater focus on the issue of childhood adversity, the nurture and support for vulnerable children and the extension of special educational needs support, to enable every child to succeed.
  8. Facilitates and invests in the essential but neglected role of an effective youth service, to work in tandem with schools, in a relationship of mutual respect, in order to create more holistic care for all young people.
  9. Recognises the urgent need for education, social care, healthcare, housing, policing and justice policy and practice, to catch up with our twenty-first century neurological and psychological understanding of child and adolescent development.
  10. Promotes a national conversation around the recognition that external transformation is never enough and that the impact of poverty, disadvantage and exclusion, can only be addressed in a deep and sustainable manner when, ‘the right of every child to a standard of living adequate for the child's physical, mental, spiritual, moral and social development’, as set out in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, is vigorously pursued.
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