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Principle Three: You go faster alone, but you can go further together

with Steve Chalke's guest and expert witness

Marvin Rees OBE

You go faster alone, but you can go further together: Why ‘The Big Society’ failed and how we can make it work again.

It was on Monday 19 July 2010 that ‘The Big Society Network’ was launched, with a fanfare of a speech by David Cameron, as ‘a national campaign for social change … run by the people, for the people’.

But, four years later, The Big Society Network collapsed. On 24 April 2015, its founding CEO Paul Twivy, who had resigned after just one year in post, was interviewed on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme. He was asked by presenter James Naughtie: ‘Why didn’t it work?’ His answer. ‘It was a series of broken promises,’ he said. Explaining that in his view the UK had one of the most centralised governments in the developed world and that needed to change. He concluded that we need a government ‘that is going to appeal to us as human beings, not just as units of GDP. Those things aren’t happening so we need to reform.’

Successful ‘big societies’ are, of course, made up of lots of ‘small communities’.

What we call the National Health Service would be better labelled the ‘National Sickness Service’. The point at which any one of us engages with it is when we are ill. When do you make an appointment with the GP? When do you go to the hospital or see a specialist? When you are sick or have a health emergency!

What we most need, therefore, is a second service to help people stay healthy and to fulfil a complimentary role alongside the existing NHS. And that service must be holistic.

Our problem is that we have over medicalised healthcare, focusing our thinking, energy and funding far too narrowly. It’s time to think differently and invest in the other pillars on which real health and wellbeing are built. Health is three dimensional: it is about body, mind and spirit. That’s why the NHS alone cannot solve the health problems of the UK. It is time to think more radically.

I remember a conversation in Downing Street with Tony Blair, then the Prime Minister, almost twenty years ago about all of this. The conversation about the stress on the NHS is not a new one! Using the metaphor of being responsible for holding the baby, he explained to me the pressure that this sudden change of roles had created for government. I said to him that the impact of replacing the work of voluntary bodies with that of a vast team of government-paid workers, also had another unforeseen outcome – it had left the churches and other charities feeling side-lined and redundant; it robbed them of their raison d'être.

At the height of the Covid pandemic in June 2020, Boris Johnson commissioned Danny Kruger, a Conversative MP, to draw up a set of proposals around how to sustain the community spirit seen in the crisis. In response, Kruger outlined what he decided to term a ‘new social covenant’ as a way in which civil society could contribute to the prime minister’s ‘levelling up’ agenda and so strengthen families and local communities. ‘We need a new social and economic model to achieve this … a wholly new paradigm … in which community power replaces the dominance of remote public and private sector bureaucracies.’

It’s time to invest in doing the ‘Big Society’ the ‘small community’ way. You go faster alone, but you can go further together!

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You go faster alone, but you can go further together: Why ‘The Big Society’ failed and how we can make it work again. In this episode Steve’s guest and expert witness is Marvin Rees, the Mayor of Bristol. In part one Steve sets out his third principle, in part two Marvin responds.

“This is my conversation with my guest and expert witness Marvin Rees, the Mayor of Bristol. We talk together about Principle 3: You go faster alone, but you can go further together. I really enjoyed my conversation with Marvin because through the lockdowns, through the pandemic, through COVID, I had the opportunity of working with Marvin in Bristol where Oasis runs a number of schools, and I watched a man who knew how to build a team do exactly that. Bristol is an incredible city. A city that's learned that you may go faster alone, but you get a lot further together.” – Steve Chalke

Marvin Rees OBE

Marvin Rees was first elected mayor of Bristol in May 2016, and re-elected in 2021, making Bristol the first major European city to have elected a black mayor. Marvin began his working life with Tearfund, one of the UK’s leading international development agencies, before working in Washington D.C with US social justice organisation, Sojourners, and advisor to President Clinton, Dr Tony Campolo. Marvin also worked with the BBC as a broadcast journalist, with the Black Development Agency supporting the BME-led voluntary sector, and in NHS Bristol’s Public Health team on race equality in mental health. Awarded an OBE for services to local government in King Charles’ first New Year’s Honours list, Marvin in also a Yale World Fellow and was named fourth on the UK black Powerlist in 2024.

About this podcast series

This podcast series, and the accompanying book by Steve Chalke sets out ten tried and tested practical principles for ‘how’ to develop joined up, cost effective, community empowering work, gleaned from the hard-won experience that sit at the heart of the mission of Oasis over the last four decades. Steve talks to 13 expert witnesses who help him bring his book to life with their own thoughts and lived experiences. We believe it’s time for a radical reset. It's time for A Manifesto for Hope!

Steve’s book is available wherever you buy your books but we recommend you buy it from Bookshop.org an online bookshop with a mission to financially support local, independent bookshops.This book is also available on Audible.

The Manifesto of Hope podcast is brought to you by Oasis. Our producer is Peter Kerwood and the sound and mix engineer is Matteo Magariello.

The Manifesto for Hope

If we are going to build and fund an integrated and holistic system of care for children, young people and their families; one which is aligned and attuned to the real needs of those it seeks to serve, we have to reimagine society together.

We therefore call on central government to establish a new social covenant that:

  1. Replaces the ‘political-cycle-is-all-that-matters’ short-term-policy-making approach and the financial wastage that accompanies it, with a cross-party written commitment to an agreed set of core principles, to be honoured over a twenty-year period, in order to reimagine and rebuild our expensive, but suboptimal systems.
  2. Creates a new generation of visionary ‘cross-system’ government leaders and officers, responsible for delivering innovative, joined-up systems with a specific focus across education, social care, healthcare and mental health, housing, policing and justice, in order to connect the policies and practices that are supposed to protect and nurture every child and young person.
  3. Builds a deepened level of trust between government, local authorities, funders, private and voluntary agencies, and local neighbourhoods by establishing a model of collaboration and mutual accountability around our vital community-building services, designed to empower ordinary people and whole communities.
  4. Acknowledges the central role of the voluntary sector – local charities, grassroots movements and faith groups – in a more imaginative, more collaborative, less bureaucratic, more transparent and mutually accountable approach to community development.
  5. Designs services ‘with’ local people rather than ‘for’ them, by listening hard to the people they are seeking to serve, thus enabling individuals and whole communities to become change makers and take responsibility for their own lives and neighbourhoods.
  6. Realigns funding priorities to create a new focus on longer-term partnerships, with more core funding, and avoids the negative competition for resources by local organisations, which by its very nature has eroded trust, created confusion, wasted time and resources, and fails to deliver the desired outcomes.
  7. Reimagines the anchor role education plays in order to end the culture of exclusion from our schools, and develops a greater focus on the issue of childhood adversity, the nurture and support for vulnerable children and the extension of special educational needs support, to enable every child to succeed.
  8. Facilitates and invests in the essential but neglected role of an effective youth service, to work in tandem with schools, in a relationship of mutual respect, in order to create more holistic care for all young people.
  9. Recognises the urgent need for education, social care, healthcare, housing, policing and justice policy and practice, to catch up with our twenty-first century neurological and psychological understanding of child and adolescent development.
  10. Promotes a national conversation around the recognition that external transformation is never enough and that the impact of poverty, disadvantage and exclusion, can only be addressed in a deep and sustainable manner when, ‘the right of every child to a standard of living adequate for the child's physical, mental, spiritual, moral and social development’, as set out in the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child, is vigorously pursued.
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